Church and State, Two Great Tastes that Taste Great Together
What do you guys think about THIS? Federal Judge Suhrheinrich (pictured here) ruled yesterday that there is no separation between church and state in the US Constitution and therefore the copy of the Ten Commandments should remain posted in a Kentucky courthouse.Is there a wall between church and state? Should there be?
Is it in the US Constitution? Should it be?
I think a lot of problems would be solved if it weren't (ie prayer in school etc.).
What problems would start if it weren't?
posted by Inner Prop at 4:47 PM
4 Comments:
I think the language everyone is focusing on is the fact that the 6th Circuit would prefer that people avoid the term "seperation of church and state" or "wall". The Establishment Clause frobids the Federal Governemnt from establishing a church. When one makes the argument against some sort of public accomodation of religion, it needs to be argued thusly. Simple chanting "wall of seperation" and the like is lazy Constitutional Law. I think if they go back and redo their approach, they stand a halfway decent chance of prevailing. You just have to not include cant in your argument, heh heh.
How are the 10 commandments religious, per se? Aren't they values all people accept (albeit with certain modifications)?
Commandments 1-4 are religous and specifically Juedo-Christian:
1. You shall not worship any other god but YHWH.
2. You shall not make a graven image.
3. You shall not take the name of YHWH in vain.
4. You shall not break the Sabbath.
I guess you could keep in the last 6 but then it wouldn't be the TEN Commandments.
I have a funny story about that sort of thing, remind me over an ale or sherry.
Actually---like all things the commanments have been changed to fit a certain need, requirement or what ever....
As I understand it the original were
1. Have no other gods before me [the God of the Hebrews].
2. Make no images of anything in heaven, earth or the sea, and do not worship or labor for them.
3. Do not vainly use the name of your God [the God of the Hebrews].
4. Do no work on the seventh day of the week.
5. Honor your parents.
6. Do not kill.
7. Do not commit adultery.
8. Do not steal.
9. Do not give false testimony against another.
10. Do not desire another's wife or anything that belongs to another.
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